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Lesson 14 – Part 7 – Question and Answer

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Rick: I’m going to start opening it up and taking questions. And we’re going to start off with Jim Truner. Good morning, Jim. I’ve just unmuted your microphone.

Jim: Hello, yeah I just had a quick question. If you want your site… if you want to request not to index it you know, when you’re developing it, where is that in Thesis 2.0? It’s moved someplace.

Rick: Well, it’s not Thesis. It’s WordPress and it has moved.

Jim: Okay.

Rick: It’s WordPress… in WordPress 3.5, I think, they moved it and it is now under Settings. It used to be under Privacy but the Privacy Settings are gone and it is now, I believe, under General. It’s either under General or under Reading. Let’s just take a quick look at it. And if you have that set, you’ll want to make sure you turn that off when your site is back up working.

Jim: Turn it back on you mean, right?

Rick: Yeah. By default, it’s off so it automatically… it does nothing to prevent your site from being indexed. And here it is, search engine visibility. Discourage search engines from indexing this site.

Jim: Okay, I got it. Thank you very much. I don’t know why I missed that. I looked through those… okay, thanks.

Rick: Yeah you’re welcome. Anything else?

Jim: No, that’s it for today. Thank you very much.

Rick: You bet. Have a good day.

Okay let’s see, Sandy. Let’s see, Sandy… good morning, Sandy. I’ve just unmuted your microphone.

Sandy: Good morning. How are you?

Rick: I’m doing well, thank you. How are you?

Sandy: I’m doing very well, thank you.

Rick: Good.

Sandy: Just a quick question, initially, do you recommend setting up the Webmaster Tools Analytics in my Google account or in my client’s account? And the reason I’m asking that is often times, my clients would have no clue what the Webmaster Tools meant and Analytics meant. So what would you recommend?

Rick: Well, are you monitoring it for them?

Sandy: Not for free. I mean, I can. I’ve kind of done it both ways but I’m just wondering what it is your recommendation.

Rick: Well, I would probably create the account for them but then make yourself an administrator in it in the account. And link your own Analytics and Webmaster Tools to that administration. And that way, if they have a problem, you can tell immediately because you can look it up and see. But if they don’t have a problem and yet you don’t have to log in to their Gmail account in order to get it.

So for example, I mean, I’ll just show you how to do that here.

Sandy: Okay.

Rick: In Google Analytics, we are called admin. You can add a new… oh no, it’s not add a new account. You can add a new administrator… user, so here it is. So once you’ve clicked on the account, you can add new users. And so the new users, add new user so I’ll just say rick@byobwebsite.

Sandy: And this is assuming that I initially set it up in their account and I’m making myself the administrator, correct?

Rick: Right. And then just create yourself an administrator, notify the person, add the user. And now you know, I’m going to get an email and…

Sandy: And it’s showing my Google account then? Is that how that works? Do I actually access it?

Rick: I’ve just gotten this email here. We wanted to alert you that you’ve been added as an administrator. Please log in to Analytics to access this account. So now I’m going to click into Analytics and what I’m really going to do is sign in. And I’m actually already logged in. And so in this account I’ve got Thesis Toolbox, a couple of others. You know, these are all just different sites I have. But then here’s the Start Building Your Website Here one that I just created this morning and gave myself access to. And so now I can go to it and I can see all the stuff.

The same thing happens with Webmaster…

Sandy: Okay so it’ll show in my…

Rick: Yes. And so the same thing happens in Webmaster Tools. Slightly different but nevertheless… let’s see. Okay and I’m not creating a sitemap. What am I doing? I am… let’s go directly to the… oh, dashboard. That’s what I want. Okay so…yeah okay.

Sandy: Yeah, I always get lost in here.

Rick: Add user. Okay, add Webmaster Tools Homepage. Click the site you want, click configuration and then users. Okay so in the Webmaster Tools page…

Sandy: No, I think it was back…

Rick: Manage site, add a…

Sandy: Oh there it is, yeah.

Rick: And so I’m going to add a new user, rick@byobwebsite. I’m going to give it full permission. Add rick@byob… pardon me. I need to spell my address correctly. Okay and I probably have a new email over here someplace. Well, I don’t. But if I log in to my Webmaster Tools account…. Okay, let’s just go to Webmaster Tools.

So here I am in Webmaster Tools account and it’s all automatically been added. I didn’t have to do anything with it. And you know, I can open it up and see that or I can go back to the main landing place and I can take a look at BYOB Website. So you can see that I have, in my sitemaps, I have 4600 URLs submitted, 2575 of those URLs were indexed. There’s only 1 error. And so… but you can see… I mean, I’m guessing you’re already familiar with how this stuff works.

So that’s what I would do is simply create the account for them with their own Gmail account. And once they have their own Gmail account set up and those accounts set up then just make yourself a user and then you can check it from time to time. And if ever you got a problem, you can test it. And they want to do something crazy, you can ask them, “Well, have you looked at your Analytics account to see how much traffic you’re getting?” You know, that kind of stuff.

Sandy: Exactly. Okay great. Yeah that makes total sense. The other question I had was totally out of topic about my organic friendly farm site. But we can go over that later. I’ll let you get to other questions about these topics.

Rick: Okay great.

Sandy: Alright so thank you. I appreciate your time.

Rick: You bet. Have a lovely day.

Okay, Hakeem is next. Good morning, Hakeem. I’ve just unmuted your microphone.

Hakeem: Hi Rick. How are you today?

Rick: I’m doing well. How are you?

Hakeem: Well, I’m creating myself a wonderful day and enjoying everything that I’m hearing.

Rick: Excellent, excellent.

Hakeem: I have a little problem. You know, I have a problem with the jargon and some domain domains and things like that when you were talking about putting your domain name and posting and so forth. So could you help me to get a clear understanding? Do you, like for instance, do you have to have a website where every chapter that you were talking about or what? I’m just confused.

Rick: And by chapter, you mean my lessons?

Hakeem: Your lessons, yes.

Rick: Okay so you don’t need a domain but you do need a subdomain. And so the way this kind of thing works with companies that use C Panel, hosting companies that use C Panel like Bluehost and InMotion Hosting and Host Gator and Webhost Service or whatever that was… Webhosting Hub and so on. And really, the majority of hosts out there today, the jargon really has sort of 3 parts to it. You have your primary domain which is the domain names that you used when you set the account up. You can purchase add on domains and add on domains are entirely other domain names.

So for example, in my… if I go to my main Bluehost account which is not the BYOB tutorial and I’m going to be logged in to BYOB tutorial so I need to log out of it so BYOB website. In BYOB Website, I have… I’ll go to my domain manager for a moment. I always look at the add on domains. I have purchased a whole bunch of add on domains. Let’s just go to the domain manager. See, I have purchased,, My sister’s blog is,,, and so on and so forth. These are all add on domains that I have purchase and then I pay for every year as domains. But they’re all contained inside of my one BYOB website account.

On the other hand, the 3rd kind of domain is the subdomain. And the subdomain doesn’t cost me anything and most hosts don’t charge you for subdomains. If you’re with a host that does charge you to have a subdomain, you probably want to consider moving hosts. But on the BYOB tutorial site, I have… all of those different things were actually subdomains and not add on domains.

And you know, BYOB tutorial account has only one domain. It’s the primary domain. But if I go look at subdomains, every lesson in my courses has its own subdomain because I’ve created a website for each specific lesson. And so I’ve got backup demo and Biltmore Etc and child theme and community and Customize Thesis Like a Pro Lesson 12, Lesson 17, Lesson 2, so on and so forth. All of these things, those are all subdomains of And I didn’t have to pay for any of them. This host, Bluehost, allows me to have unlimited subdomains with my hosting account and in fact, allows me to have unlimited domains with my hosting account as well.

So those are the 3 sets of terminology. I just unmuted your microphone again. Does that make sense?

Hakeem: Yes it does, absolutely. You know, I’m beginning to understand. At one time, my… I just thought there might be a zillion different things and I wasn’t sure.

Rick: Yeah no, subdomains are free. Add on domains generally cost you the cost of registering them.

Hakeem: So let me ask you this question, in Lesson 5, how did you identify that as a subdomain? How did you make that a subdomain? Did you save it as that or what?

Rick: No, I created the subdomain. So here in Bluehost, let’s say I want to create a Lesson 13 subdomain. I didn’t actually do that for today’s lesson. But I have this old naming convention I’m using for these subdomains called t2lesson13. Okay well as soon as I entered that, it suggested a directory that it would create for that and I’m going to go ahead and let it create that directory, t2lesson13. And as soon as I create this, I now have a subdomain, that will resolve. See, it says it’s been created.

So now, I can actually go to it, t2… let’s see… but not lesson… I’m going to go to Lesson 13. And of course, there’s really nothing there. Well okay, it’s not t2lesson13. Well, it’s not resolving yet. But you know, within a matter of minutes, that URL will resolve and it will you know, be a valid… did I leave off the .com? No, I didn’t. It’s usually instant but nevertheless, that’s how it works.

And now that I’ve created that, if I go back over to C Panel, you’ll see I’ve got a folder there for it. So if I scroll down to File Manager and go to public html, now I have a t2lesson13. And this stuff has been entered into it.

Hakeem: And then you just go on and create the lesson plan that you have for us with whatever tool that you are using?

Rick: Yes.

Hakeem: Okay well thanks.

Rick: You’re welcome. Anything else?

Hakeem: No, I feel better.

Rick: Good. Have a good day.

Hakeem: Thanks again.

Rick: You bet.

Hakeem: Okay.

Okay so let’s see, David. “I’m backing up my site regularly but I’m scared to test restore. I’ve never tried it.” David, I’m going to unmute your microphone. Good morning, David, I’ve just unmuted your microphone.

David: Okay great. Thanks for another wonderful tutorial. It helped me understand backups really well. So what about doing restores? I’m too chicken to restore onto my live site. I’m afraid I’ll screw it up. Do you have any tips on that or is that maybe covered in the video that you told us to watch?

Rick: Well, you can practice restoring on a clone and that’s probably what I would do is just practice your restores on a clone. So you’d either… you’d create a clone either… well I mean, the other thing you can do is just go ahead and do it on a live site. That’s what I’m going to show you doing that right here. You know, I could… I mean, at its most basic, restoring the files here… let’s just say, I delete everything. Let’s see, I’m not selecting it properly. So I delete all those files and then…

David: It scares the heck out of me just to watch you delete all those files.

Rick: I delete all those files and… oh let’s see, I’m on the wrong… here I am, Lesson 12. It’s going to fail, right? And so what I’m going to do is come over to my file manager again and just unzip this one. I mean, I deliberately didn’t delete that zip file so I didn’t have to spend the time uploading it. Let’s see, where am I? Oh, that’s the wrong folder, pardon me. It’s t2lesson12. So all I have to do here is click on that zip folder and extract. And I’m going to extract it on a t2lesson12… it’s all there now. And if I refresh that page again, it works.

Same kind of thing happens with the database. Let’s say that this table got deleted. So the wp post table’s absolutely critical for the successful running of your site. So let’s say I got corrupted so we’ll drop it. Okay, we don’t have any post table anymore and without a post table, stuff works but it doesn’t work right because there’s no posts. So what I would do in that situation is I would first copy everything I’ve got or actually, I guess what I’d do is go to export and I would export this. And at this point, I’d just save it on this server. And then once saved and we go back over to the structure, check all, drop it so now the database is entirely empty. And now if you want to see failure, it’s total. If you see something like this, that means you’ve got a database failure… a massive database failure.

And so what you’ll do is import your backed up database file. So now we’re going to just choose a file and go over to documents and my business websites and backups. And this backup… and I’m going to grab that database, open it up and say go. Okay, at which point, all of these tables have been placed back in place in the same format that they were deleted from or they were moved from. And now, if I do this, my site’s all back.

David: Beautiful.

Rick: So it’s a fair thing. I don’t test restores anymore because I don’t need to. You only need to practice restores until you’re very comfortable with it so that you can do it in a few moments when the shit hits the fan. That’s the only… that’s the reason for practicing it in the first place. It happens that your backups don’t always work which is why you do multiple redundant backups.

And I’ve discovered on a number of occasions that backups didn’t work entirely and I have had to resort to using other aspects, other things that I used in the backup in order to make sure it all came together. The most notable of this is databases. Backup Buddy used to have difficulty backing up database files or I’m sorry, database tables that didn’t have a certain kind of unique identifier. And there are other… there are plenty of backup systems that are like that actually and I didn’t know this at the time so I was using Backup Buddy and I was using’s system… now I’ve forgotten its name… for doing automatic backups. And they both have the same flaw. And if I hadn’t had manual database backups, I would have lost stuff.

So it makes sense for… I said all that to say that sometimes, stuff doesn’t back up the way you expect it to and so testing it can highlight that for you. It can demonstrate to you that it’s not actually working quite right. But I don’t test my backup systems anymore because they’ve worked for me regularly. And it also makes me comfortable to screw things up. You know, I can take risks with my site because I know that my backup stuff works. And more often than not, if I have to restore something, it’s because I knew I was risking something. And you know, whether I was using a piece of code that might not work properly or I was trying something in my database that I wasn’t absolutely sure was going to work and it didn’t… and so I had to restore. Those are the kinds of things that I end up sort of facing routinely. And so I find myself restoring you know, probably once every couple of months, one way or the other.

And so once you get to that point where you’re confident that all your stuff works and you know exactly how to do it then you don’t really have to practice it anymore. But until you get to that point, you’d definitely want to practice it and you want to be able to believe in what you’re doing.

David: Yeah right and the only way to get that is to practice doing a restore.

Rick: Right. And you might want to practice first on a clone just to hone your skills. But at some point, you’re going to want to practice on your live site. And there have been times, I did a seminar a while back where I trashed BYOB Website on purpose to restore it. And that seminar is on the site someplace. You know, I do have lots of demonstrations in seminars on restoring different backups.

David: Okay cool.

Rick: Okay. Anything else?

David: That’s it. Thank you.

Rick: Okay, you’re welcome. Have a good day.

Okay well, I mean that’s it. I don’t have any other questions. Anybody else? Sandy, I’m going to come back to you here. Well, all the people are thinking about whether or not they’re going to ask a question.

Rick: Okay, Sandy you said you had another question about the organic grocery or the organic store?

Sandy: Yeah, exactly. I installed Types in Cart66 and created a custom post called products and your box. And it doesn’t work. And I’ve gone through it like 3 times to check my work and I’m just not sure where I failed. No, it’s website designs, plural. That’s it. And you can see the page, if you go /product and then /foxfarm-big-blue-2. That’s the one sample product I stuck in there.

The first section where you see price quantity, that is actually adding a shortcode to the regular post content area. Underneath it is the custom field and the custom fields aren’t working correctly. And I’m confused.

Rick: Okay so that custom field is something that you placed inside of a custom meta, post meta.

Sandy: Yes, correct.

Rick: Okay now you’re right. The Simple Post meta box does not currently parse shortcodes.

Sandy: Okay.

Rick: Now I’m…

Sandy: But the image one isn’t working either.

Rick: The image one isn’t working?

Sandy: Yeah, see the http, the whole image file there, right under… it says the quantity and then Add to Cart and then the next… those are 4 custom fields versus the title, the second is the image then the description. The last is the shortcode. So I understand the shortcode part. Do you see the image one? That’s a custom field. I hope I’m using the right terminology.

Rick: Yeah, you are. But you haven’t… that’s probably the content you placed in there, right? Was that text, http://… all the way through, right?

Sandy: In the image custom fields? Yes, correct.

Rick: Well, so what you need is img src = such and such.

Sandy: Yeah, I thought so too but it has just a button that says add image and goes to the image… the media library. And that’s how it adds it. Do I need to go in and then physically type in that image source tag?

Rick: So this is the types image field?

Sandy: Yes.

Rick: Oh well, I’ll take a look at that. I’ll take a look at that. It could be that the types image field does not… assumes that your… I mean, they may have… you know, they’ve got their own little shortcode, right? And it could be that their own shortcode interprets their… adds the image stuff to it. So…

Sandy: Well, I don’t know that they have a shortcode. Maybe I’m not understanding but it looks just like adding an image you know, on the regular wyziwig editor?

Rick: Right. And so…

Sandy: But it doesn’t have a shortcode. It just adds the…

Rick: The thing is that my box doesn’t add any HTML. My box just spits out whatever is in the field.

Sandy: I understand, okay.

Rick: And the chances are that you know, types comes along with the thing called views.

Sandy: Yes, I’ve seen that.

Rick: The chances are when views is extracting an image field, it adds the necessary stuff to it.

Sandy: Right.

Rick: Now in this case, you would probably just want to use the featured image, the WordPress featured image system for this rather than using a custom field because… well, in the first place, that’s what Cart66 does. So all of Cart66’s functions for displaying products rely on the featured image.

Sandy: Okay.

Rick: And I said Cart66, right? I didn’t mean Cart66. I meant… are you aware of the conversation that I shared yesterday about switching from Cart66 to Market Press in my course?

Sandy: No because in the morning Q&A, I wasn’t able to attend so I wasn’t… if that’s what you were referring to, I wasn’t there.

Rick: Okay so I’m going to be changing… I don’t think I’m going to be teaching Cart66 and the reason is that in the process of developing the prototype site, I realized that Cart66 has a bunch of irritating limitations. It works just fine in Thesis 2. It does work fine in Thesis 2 but what it doesn’t do is it doesn’t charge sales tax in advance of going to PayPal. If you are using PayPal, you have to charge sales tax inside of PayPal. It doesn’t allow you to bundle products. It doesn’t allow you to combine digital products and physical products and a handful of other things. It doesn’t have any kind of decent order management system.

Sandy: Oh okay.

Rick: And what… generally speaking, when somebody is selling physical products like this, they need to be able to charge sales tax for their own state inside their shopping cart without having to say, “Okay, go to PayPal and pay it. Oh by the way, here’s your… here’s where you calculate your tax.” I mean, that’s the whole reason why I say that WP eStore is better for applications where that’s not necessary because that’s what WP eStore does too.

And there are a handful of other limitations like it won’t automatically add a purchaser to your email list. So if somebody comes and buys a product, it won’t automatically add them to AWeber or to MailChimp or to whatever. And for lots of people, that’s important. They want to able to capture the email addresses of the people that make purchases. And if somebody makes more than one purchase, the Cart66 doesn’t offer the ability for them to log in and see what their purchases were which is part of the order fulfillment because you can, otherwise, indicate… well, Shoppe allows you to indicate you know, it hasn’t been shipped yet and that kind of stuff. And let some… if they log in, let some see their shipping information and when it was sent and who it was sent by and what the tracking number is and all that kind of stuff.

So I haven’t gone that far with MarketPress yet but it at least appears to have a fair bit of additional features that I think are critical, that Cart66 doesn’t have. Well, that was the other thing is that in variations, variations can have a price impact but cannot have an impact on shipping cost. So if you’re selling a book and you’re selling a hardcover book, a CD and a soft cover all as a single product and each one of those are options, the shipping cost is going to be the same for all three, regardless of the weight or anything else because Cart66 doesn’t let you specify… it will let you increase the price but it doesn’t change shipping or anything like that.

So they’re just a bunch of little limitations to Cart66 that started building up on me as I was working on a prototype site that I just decided that we’re going to have to turn our back on it.

Sandy: Got it.

Rick: However, Market Press currently appears to be working in Thesis and I should know best by the end of the week. And I offered folks yesterday the opportunity to get an evaluation copy of the plugin. If you want me to send you an evaluation copy of the plugin so you can see what it’s like, it also creates a custom post type and that custom post type can be edited in the Thesis Editor. The custom taxonomies can be edited in the Thesis Editor so the archive pages can be edited. And it does its… it’s got a bunch of automatic stuff that it does based on the featured image.

And so I said all that to say that’s why I would use a featured image in this case because there are lots of other things that featured image can do.

Sandy: Okay that makes sense because I haven’t purchased Cart66 yet. I’ve just been using the lite version to test it. So yeah, I’d definitely like to try Market Press. This store, I’m trying to make it so that it will be easy to… once I have all the structures set up, easy to upload the… literally thousands of products that are sitting in a CSV file currently.

Rick: It will be easy to do that with Market Press.

Sandy: Okay cool.

Rick: Now it would have been easy-ish to do that with Cart66 too. But it will be easier with Market Press because Market Press saves all of its information as post meta with the post.

Sandy: Okay.

Rick: So essentially, what you’re doing is you are creating posts from CSV that you know, has a title and a content and then these various post meta fields. And you can easily create thousands that way.

Sandy: Awesome. Okay yeah, I would like to look at that one. Do you have an evaluation copy of Market Press?

Rick: Yes.

Sandy: Okay yeah, I would like to look at that because I’m just, as you can see, I’m just at this point now where I’m trying to get the structure of the products. So this file the she sent me two days ago, it has literally thousands of lines on it, of CSV files. I can actually import into it and have her store look like something.

Rick: Yeah.

Sandy: Cool.

Rick: I guess the one downside of this whole thing is going to be the image because the… you’re going to want to include the image…

Sandy: Well, that was another question…
Rick: You’re going to include this address of the image but you’re going to have to deal with big bulk imported images into the Media Library in order to use the featured image function.

Sandy: Yeah, it does make sense because the CSV file has an address to the large, the medium and the thumbnail images from the vendor’s website. But I guess I would have to download all of the… I’m sorry, go ahead.

Rick: Well actually, the Media Library will allow you to add images from a remote location.
Sandy: Oh cool. That would make that super…

Rick: I wouldn’t import all three. I would just import the large and let the Media Library produce the other two.

Sandy: Right, exactly. That would make it way easier because otherwise, I’ve got to download thousands of images from individual image links then upload them. So if I could just link it to the vendor’s site, that would make it tremendously easier.

Rick: Yeah.

Sandy: Okay awesome. Yeah, I think I’ll go ahead and make the switch because I’m not that far into it yet. But I need to get moving on it. She’s being very patient with me but I need to get moving on it.

Rick: The only caveat I have is that I have not finished testing it yet. And I probably won’t even finish testing it until the first part of next week. I have tested parts of it and I am satisfied that those parts actually work. But you don’t know for sure that it’s going to work until you actually exchange money for a product and it charges the right shipping and it charges the right tax.

Sandy: And can you do sandbox testing with it? Does it have that feature?

Rick: Well, I don’t trust sandbox testing for that. Yes, it does. It’s fairly easy to do either sandbox testing or PayPal sandbox testing. But I want to do real testing.

Sandy: Right, yeah.

Rick: I mean, I definitely… sandbox testing is just fine for just making sure your system is working right. But until an actual financial transaction is processed, it’s not fully tested.

Sandy: Right.

Rick: So I need to get all the way to that point before I can say I know it’s going to work.

Sandy: Right. Fair enough. And obviously, I’m not too far into this yet but I’m hoping that I could get into it fairly expeditiously. So cool.

Rick: At what point do you need a working shipping system?

Sandy: Well, as soon as I can get it done for her. I mean, I don’t have a deadline for this but I mean, I don’t have a deadline written in a contract. It’s just when I get it done. But certainly, I don’t want to take months either for her.

Rick: Well, you’re going to wait several weeks or a couple of weeks anyway. Not several weeks but you’re going to wait a couple of weeks to get the US Postal Service ID number. And those IDs are domain-specific so you’re going to want to get one for testing and you’re going to want to get one for real domain. You may as well get started on that right away.

Sandy: Okay.

Rick: And if you look at my videos on creating a store with Shopp and look at setting up the shipping, you’ll see I go through the process of doing that and that’s what you’re going to want to do. You’re going to want to get that going fast because it’s surprising how long it takes for the postal service to get back to you with working information.

Sandy: Okay. Good to know.

Rick: Okay?

Sandy: Yeah, that sounds great and I look forward to hearing back from you about getting forward with… moving forward with other things too.

Rick: Yeah, I think we’re going to do that tomorrow morning. But I’lls end you an email later today.

Sandy: Okay perfect. That sounds awesome.

Rick: Okay bye bye.

Let’s see, so David wants to know if he can register for all of the Live Answer in one fell swoop. No, you can’t. You got to register for them one at a time. One of the reasons of that is that I am… that I want you to ask me questions in advance. And so you know, it’s… I mean, it’s kind of fun to play stump the chump every Wednesday and see if you can ask me a question I don’t know the answer to or that I’m not prepared for. But it helps me immensely for people to actually submit the question in advance because that way, I can actually prepare for it in advance. So I don’t have that big sign up thing specifically so that people will ask questions that they want answers to before they sign up for it. And then I always answer those questions first and then we play stump the chump after that.
So Penny… actually, I’m going to go to Megan first then Penny. We’re going to come back to you. So Megan, where did you go?

Rick: Hi Megan, this is Rick. I’ve just unmuted your telephone actually. Are you with me?

Brian: Alright Rick, it’s Brian.

Rick: Oh it’s Brian. Okay, there he is.

Brian: Yes sir, I’m on my wife’s computer. I was just checking in. I know we missed a session the other day but we were going to work on some stuff here in the near future.

Rick: Yeah. I have an announcement. I’d like to do it next Friday.

Brian: Awesome.

Rick: Will that work?

Brian: Okay, I’m going to fix my schedule. That works for me.

Rick: Okay, what we’re going to do is it’s essentially going to be an extension of this class. It’s going to be a couple hours, maybe a little bit longer seminar on creating a magazine style or how to organize a magazine style blog site and how to create the custom templates to vary up the appearance of categories in that.

Brian: Awesome. Okay well, I’m all for it and I will clear my schedule for Friday.

Rick: Okay. It’ll be the same time, Friday, from 9 to 11. And I do need to spend some time just talking to you personally about it as well. And maybe we can do that the first part of the week?
Brian: Sure. You just let me know. If you’ll send me an email or just call me, I got my cell with me all the time.

Rick: Okay. Well, I will plan on get… touching bases with you Monday or Tuesday-ish. And I just need to kind of walk through some questions that I have on the site’s organization. And then I’m just going to come in and propose an organization and we’ll convert posts and add categories and then create custom templates to do what you want to do. Okay?

Brian: Awesome, awesome. Once again, I appreciate it. You’re an awesome guy and you have tons of patience. God bless you.

Rick: Okay, well thank you Brian. We’ll talk to you soon. Bye bye.

Brian: Alright, bye bye.
Rick: Okay so Penny. Hey Penny, I just unmuted your microphone.

Penny: Hi Rick.

Rick: Okay so you want to know… what’s that?

Penny: We were going to do that… put those images on my sidebar, the top, middle and bottom.

Rick: Yes.

Penny: Blue… we were going to work on that Wednesday but you had to cancel.

Rick: So this is Leader’s Edge.

Penny: Leader’s Edge CA.

Rick: And we are talking about…

Penny: There, that…

Rick: Okay here. And do you have 3 images?

Penny: I have the 3 images, yes.

Rick: Are they…

Penny: Oh well, they’re just your… I have them in my Image Library.

Rick: Okay. So let’s see…

Penny: Except when I have them hidden right in there.

Rick: Are there any… by Image Library, do you mean the Thesis Image Library? Thesis Images?

Penny: The skin?

Rick: Yeah.

Penny: In the Skin Library?

Rick: Yes.
Penny: Yeah.

Rick: Okay.

Penny: Skin Editor Library?

Rick: Right. Okay so what we’re going to do is make them a background image of two column content.

Penny: Right.

Rick: And do you… do I have a login information for this? Do I have a… I don’t remember whether or not I have a…

Penny: My login…

Rick: No, do I have one? You know…

Penny: No. I actually have them set up… is it just strictly styling… I mean, I’ve got them here in my custom CSS, the two column content, ¼ with everything ready to go. But…

Rick: Okay.

Penny: I just don’t know how to do the center.

Rick: Okay so then what you would do is… so it’s #2columncontent, right?

Penny: Content?

Rick: Is that what it is?

Penny: Did I need the .1/4 also for that?

Rick: No, you don’t.

Penny: Yeah. No?

Rick: You do not.

Penny: I do not what?

Rick: You do not need the ¼. You just want the div id 2 column content.

Penny: Okay.

Rick: And then what you’re going to say is background image and then URL. And then it’s images…

Penny: You know actually, I could probably save you some time. If you want to look at my screen, I have most of these already typed.

Rick: Okay, let’s do that. That makes sense because what you’re doing is you’re going to add all 3 of these images as background images to the one… to that one area.

Penny: Right. So you can see my screen now?

Rick: So we can see you’ve got 2 column content… okay, background URL. Now, the way this works is after the first URL, put a comma. So right next to that, put the comma and then put the 2nd URL there. So… now pardon me. The…

Penny: This whole thing?

Rick: The way these things layer is that the lowest one is covered by the ones above. So you’re going to do the bottom one is going to go second.

Penny: Okay so do I check…

Rick: Starting with URL.

Penny: Okay.

Rick: Bottom one goes second, comma…

Penny: Got it.

Rick: And then third.

Penny: The third one, the middle one.

Rick: Yep. Now actually, it can’t be background either. It has to be background-image.

Penny: background-image instead of URL?

Rick: No no, it’s got URL there but it’s got to be background-image, not background. Okay, background image and then remove the no repeat top from this. Okay, get rid of that extra space. And so the next one down is… well actually, you need a semi-colon there. That’s ending the background image and now you need background-position colon. And so the first one is going to be left top… no no, left space top. And then no colon and then a comma. And then the next one is going to be left center and then comma then left bottom semi-colon. And then background repeat or space background repeat… it’s background-repeat.

Penny: Hyphen on that one, okay.

Rick: And then colon and then you’ve got no hyphen repeat comma space repeat… oh pardon me. That one’s also no repeat and then the final one is repeat-y.

Penny: Hyphen…

Rick: Semi-colon. Okay, go ahead and delete those other things there because those are going to conflict with it not.

Penny: Right.

Rick: Okay so what we’ve done here is we have specified that the big section includes the sidebar column inside of it. The big section has 3 background images and the first one is at the top, the second one’s at the bottom, the one in the last one, the lowest layer is… starts at the top and goes down to the bottom. And… oh, I said left center. That’s not left center. I’m sorry, pardon me. It’s left top as well. And no actually, that’s… the first one is left top. The second one is left bottom and the third one can… it can be left bottom. It should be… left top is probably better. Left top is better.

Penny: Save it?

Rick: Save it. Let’s see what it looks like. Okay so go… make sure before you do anything else, go ahead and copy that stuff that we just did. I think you’ve lost your session so copy that and paste it into a text file so you don’t have to retype it.

Penny: Okay. I can’t find my… let’s see what happens here.

Rick: I don’t think anything’s going to happen because I don’t think it’s saving… oh, it is happening.

Penny: Oh there it is.

Rick: So now what you have to do is move it and…

Penny: It’s looking funky though.

Rick: Well, it’s because we’re getting the… the image is starting at the top and ending at the bottom, right? And so it is over… it’s showing up behind the images. Now what you want to do in that situation is you want to make the top and bottom image with the rounded corners. You want to make them so that the white shows up in the background. Right now, your background images is transparent.

Penny: Probably white.

Rick: Yeah.

Penny: You mean the image itself?

Rick: Yeah so at the top and bottom pieces, when they cover the middle piece, they… the middle piece can’t show through.

Penny: Right.

Rick: So they have to have a white background to them. They can’t have a transparent background.

Penny: Oh, I thought she made them… well, they looked white. Let me just find one here. Now where are you? No, it looks like it’s white actually. Can you see that?

Rick: Okay then I’ve got the order wrong. No, it’s not. It’s clear.

Penny: Is it clear?

Rick: Yeah, here I’ll make myself the presenter so you can see this. You can see here, that little grey background pattern there, that indicates that it’s clear.

Penny: Oh, that’s a transparent. You’re right, you’re right. Okay, I’ll have her make those white then. Great.

Rick: So if the top and bottom are white then that white will cover up this corner, right?

Penny: I got it. I got it, okay that makes sense.

Rick: And then all you have to do is instead of left, maybe what you’re doing is 12 px. So let’s see, inspect this and okay, let’s just source this and then let’s find that section. Okay, come on.
Penny: It’s at the very top if you’re looking for what we just did.

Rick: I am.

Penny: It needs to be at the very top.
Rick: Well, it’s not the very top. It’s just going to be at the very top of the custom. I just have to find out where that starting place is.

Penny: Oh right.

Rick: Okay.

Penny: It should be up.

Rick: Up here?

Penny: Up right there. Right there on line 370.

Rick: I see it. So then we come over here instead of left, say 12 px and you can see it jumped over that right? Moved over?

Penny: Okay.

Rick: So instead of left, you just give it a position. And in fact you know, you could, for this one, say 11 px.

Penny: Okay.

Rick: Oh actually, no pardon me. No actually, that should have worked. Why didn’t I move that down? Oh yeah, pardon me. No, it doesn’t matter. It repeats in both directions whether you like it or not. Starting place doesn’t actually stop that.

Penny: So you don’t really have any control over the top and the bottom.

Rick: Well, you don’t have any control… if you’re repeating in the y direction, it repeats up and down in the y direction regardless of where it starts.

Penny: Okay.

Rick: It doesn’t just repeat from the top down. It repeats in both directions. So it doesn’t really matter what this says because it’s still going to go both directions which is why this has to be transparent on the top and on the bottom so that it can hide the rest of it.

Penny: Okay great.

Rick: But obviously, it’s going to work. You’ll know once you do that.

Penny: I’ll turn off that… yes. Excellent. I appreciate that, thank you.
Rick: You’re welcome. Anything else?

Penny: No, have a great one.

Rick: Thank you. I will.

Penny: Have a good weekend.

Rick: Thank you. You too.

Penny: Don’t work too hard.

Rick: Actually I’m.. you know, I didn’t get a lot of work done the last couple of days. I came down with a migraine on Wednesday and I’m still recovering from it yesterday. And so I’m looking forward to having a couple of productive days this weekend.

Penny: Well good, alright. Take some time for yourself too.

Rick: Bye bye. Well, see you later.

Penny: Thank you again. Bye bye.

Rick: Bye bye.

Okay, let’s see. So Blake… hi Blake, I just unmuted your microphone.

Blake: Thanks. How are you doing? Sorry, I missed most of the… but it just… I’m originally starting to… HostGator… I was wondering… in C Panel, is there anything that you find or recommend one or the other?

Rick: Well, the one feature that Bluehost has that HostGator does not have is the Domain Manager where you can register a domain from here. And so you just create a new domain, you check to see if it exists and then you can buy it. It’s automatically added to your account right there. I like that feature quite a bit and HostGator does not have that. Otherwise, I don’t really… I don’t think there’s a big difference between the two except that you know, Bluehost’s support is outstanding. Now I haven’t heard any complaints about HostGator support so I’m not saying that HostGator doesn’t have good support. I’m just saying that I found that Bluehost support to be excellent.

But you know, I don’t think that they… I don’t think that there’s a… if you’re already at HostGator, I don’t think there’s any reason why you should switch from HostGator to BlueHost.

Blake: No, their support is pretty good. They saved me from myself a few times already.
Rick: Yeah.

Blake: Anyway, I’ll be in touch and thanks a lot.

Rick: Okay, you’re welcome.

Blake: … bye bye.

Rick: Okay, have a good day. Bye bye.

Well, and that I think wraps it up then too because I don’t see any other questions here.

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