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John Cunningham
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August 3, 2012 - 11:29 am
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I know you use/teach aWeber. I am looking at WuFoo; I like the ability to customize theri forms. I am a bit confused about what service would be best for me. aWeber touts themselves as email marketing, and Wufoo touts themselves as a form building site. Both seem to have the capacity top deliver content. I am very unclear about which is better for what I need.

 

I am trying to make a decision about which service to use if any. My criteria below:

  • Do not currently wish to provide an enewsletter (maybe later,  but I actually never read any of these myself, so I figure why create one more of these things people just toss in the long run)
  • I would like to have alot of control over the appearance of the forms. I would like to be able to ad surveys, in a widget via the service forms I create
  • I would like to be able to trade content (pdf, video, or other...) for contact info. So, I would like a service whee the form gets filled out and the item gets delivered with a link or an email or both.
  • I would like to be able to embed the forms on my blog and social media pages

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I don't know anything about woofoo.  However from what you are describing it sounds like apples and oranges.

Don't use aweber for surveys.  Aweber is for collecting contact information and communicating with those contacts en masse.  If you don't plan on sending out regular emails to folks who sign up then why bother?

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I honestly don't know meuch about Wufoo but from what John listed as needing for his business I am pretty sure that AWeber does. I use Mail Chimp and Although they do have some basic form building abilities they allow for you to use a form builder like Coffee Cup to build your form and then you can just add your html code to collect the info that you want to collect.

If you are not using a newletter or any autoresponder right away than you can manage up to 2000 subscribers using Mail Chimp. That allows you to send out 12,000 email manually, not counting your confirmation and Download/Thank-You Page, which are sent out automatically.

Hope I helped and didn't just confuse the issue.

I have been studying web design and development for some time now and I love working with Wordpress, specifically Thesis now that I am starting to understand the framework.

Thanks Rick for setting up this really great site.

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From my experience you MUST communicate regularly to folks on your list if you don't want them to think of your emails as spam.  If your subscribers see something from you weekly they are much less likely to consider (and report) your emails as spam.  If they want off, they simply unsubscribe.

However, if I go for 2 or 3 weeks without sending an email the next email gets a larger number of spam complaints.

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Thomas, Welcome to the forum, and thank you for sharing your thoughts! There are so many choices out there now and the decision to go this way or that can be crippling. Getting a little feedback from actual users of products is always helpful, so thanks again for letting me hear about your experience.

 

Ricardo, That is interesting and makes sense. The thing is.....I'm just not sure about what to send out that frequently. In my case I would like to use embedded forms to be able to trade content (pdf, video, or other…) for contact info. I also would like to learn more about email marketing. I suppose that the protective wall/barrier could be lowered or raised based on how opt-in emails are managed, and that goes double for me, as I'm selling the most expensive thingy most people will ever buy (their home), and that means that it might take a long time for a new lead to convert.

 

Thanks to both again for your thoughts. Maybe some of us BYOB'rs might want to do a Google Hangout around Happy Hour time and we could yuk it up about this stuff for a few minutes? I know the discussions would be fun.cool

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One strategy for emailing regularly is to do what DIYThemes does.  Send out announcements of blog posts.  If you post a couple times a week send out an email once a week with teaser content from both posts.  That way people get used to getting useful content from you.

We've discussed having a BYOB cocktail hour hangout.  Play up the whole BYOB double entendre.

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That all sounds good to me, especially the cocktail hour hangout. About the DIYI Themes idea: How is that content physically set up on such an email? That might sound really basic to you, but I can see value in an instructional video on that. A little outside the topic of building a website, but hey if you have a rockin site and a below average way to stay engaged with the leads then it's all for not. So, I do believe that I have made a compelling case for pimping the idea of a little instruction on the topic. I'm just sayin......wink

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What DIY does is send out an email once a week or so that gives a little teaser of their recent blog posts.  Sometimes it's just the first paragraph and sometimes it's just an introductory sentence of two with an invitation (and link) to read the post on the site.

This isn't something that we currently do particularly well.

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