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I would like to add a search bar just below the menu and customize it's size with wording below to make it visually more notable. It there a tutorial how to do so?

 

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site - http://www.askthedogguy.com

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John, there isn't a tutorial showing how to do that specifically.  It looks like you are using a version of Agility 1.  Is that the case?

If it is you might want to look at rebuilding your site with Agility 3.2 (soon to be 3.3) and then using tools in it to do that.

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November 5, 2018 - 5:45 pm
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Says, 

BYOB Agility Nude v 2.2.2

 

I don't recall any upgrade prompt and not seeing one now.

 

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I watched one of the videos. It seems that I might have to do a lot of fiddling to make the transition. I don't want to break the site. Is there an ETA on the version that will handle the transition? In the interim, I can practice on a dev site.

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I'm sorry John but there will never be a smooth upgrade path between them.  Each version is significantly different than the previous version.

Once upon a time I had an idea of making a smooth transition between 2.2 and 3.2 but I don't see that happening anymore.

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I must have read that once upon time post somewhere. What can I expect if I upgrade as far as work and do you have a workflow checklist or something similar that will give me an idea as to what I'm in for?

 

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John, before you did anything you should look through https://www.agilityskin.com to determine if you like the default styles and arrangement of Agility 3.

If you do then you would just install Agility 3 and go from there.

The workflow is:

  • Backup your skin data
  • Download Agility 3.2.2 from here
  • Switch to a different skin - Thesis Classic
  • Delete Agility
  • Upload Agility 3
  • In skin data - restore all defaults
  • Put your widgets back into the main sidebar.
  • In skin content setup your header and footer
  • Use skin design to style elements as needed.
  • Backup your skin data at the end of every day editing the skin
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I made the transition to 3.2.2 today. Can you elaborate on:

  • In skin content setup your header and footer

"In skin content setup your header and footer" I had a bottom footer with 4 columns/widgets. The content for those widgets is gone. How do I return them? 

The widgets in this area seemed to transition on their own:

  • Put your widgets back into the main sidebar."

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Also, now that I've made the upgrade, I would like to add a search bar just below the menu and customize it's size with wording below to make it visually more notable. I've tried a few things, nothing working yet. Which tools were you suggesting when I originally posted?

John

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Hi John and sorry for my late answer.

I've tried a few things, nothing working yet

For starter :

1- You will need to clear all the caches of your plugin "Rocket", and disable it. It's blocking the site to update the stylings.

2- You need to clean-up your CSS (rogue backslashes) - See : http://diythemes.com/thesis/do.....s/fix-css/

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Hi Pierre,

Thank you for the input. However, I've made the decision to abandon the Agility Skin etc as it appears Rick has also abandoned this site's membership, the skin etc. If support is gone then one must assume that updates are unlikely.

I have too much at stake and while I'm not particularly thrilled that after investing in the one-time offer lifetime BYOB membership ($800 CND) on the basis of Rick's prior commitment and resultant turn around on questions asked and answered, he took my and other's money, and ran, it's better to embrace the fool me once, shame on Rick, fool me twice shame on me.

I've provided Rick with personal emails, phone calls etc. encouraging him to respond to let me know if I was somehow in error or if he was perhaps ailing but he has ignored all friendly attempts. It turns out he just got another job and continues to collect memberships without providing the promised service. Something I am taking up with the appropriate authorities as it seems unlikely that from a civil perspective I can practically bring about a return of my membership fee. Fraud is also a criminal act and there's considerable evidence (new membership fees have been collected since Rick went AWOL.)

In short, I'm done with BYOB etc as a vehicle for achieving my website goals. I'll have to invest time and money elsewhere.

John

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Hi John, I understand your frustration, but :

I'm not talking about the "Agility Skin" but other basic functionalities of WP and Thesis.

Let me use an analogy :

1- WP is the cone

2- Thesis is the ice-cream (framework)

3- Agility (any Thesis skin) is the topping on the ice-cream (goodies)

If #1 & #2 is not working correctly, How come #3 work correctly ??

Even if you use other skins, at present state using Thesis, the many (HTML) errors I see on your site won't all go away. (unless you start afresh)

Technology evolve every day (or so), and all "Dev" try to keep up with #1 and #2, that mean a lot of work adjusting #3. You got a good response from Chris about Focus.

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As a forum moderator, I have full power to moderate or delete your posts here. So, please try to keep your grievance private. I myself have no contact with Rick for a while.

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Pierre Cote said
Hi John, I understand your frustration, but :

Technology evolve every day (or so), and all "Dev" try to keep up with #1 and #2, that mean a lot of work adjusting #3. You got a good response from Chris about Focus.

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As a forum moderator, I have full power to moderate or delete your posts here. So, please try to keep your grievance private. I myself have no contact with Rick for a while.  

I'm not sure you do understand my frustration. If you did I would think all things considered, (my patience and multiple sincere efforts to positively resolve what your refer to as a grievance which is hardly the correct word), as moderator, rather than threatening me with moderation and deletion of posts you would weigh whether my concerns are legitimate and rectify your acknowledgement, "As a forum moderator, ... I myself have no contact with Rick for a while." and acknowedlge that based on past behavior that is not usual for Rick and unearth whether he is deceased, seriously ill, just abandoned us temporarily, permanently etc. and report back. Or, did you mean that you have attempted, as I and multiple others have attempted to contact Rick and been ignored as well?

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If #1 & #2 is not working correctly, How come #3 work correctly ??
Even if you use other skins, at present state using Thesis, the many (HTML) errors I see on your site won't all go away. (unless you start afresh)

Technology evolve every day (or so), and all "Dev" try to keep up with #1 and #2, that mean a lot of work adjusting #3. You got a good response from Chris about Focus.

I believe I understand your point and if you are saying that my Agile Skin difficulties are being caused by or are more difficult to address if certain inferred but not precisely identified html problems are not first addressed I would be happy to do so. However, at this point, I'm plagued with doubt as to whether I am being "handled". It seems also possible that while there are errors on the site that should be addressed they are not directly linked. If they were, I should think you could be more specific. 

Keep in mind from my perspective, my problems began when upgrading from the old skin to the new. Without the support that Rick providing in the past to correct the transition difficulties, I have been left to my own devices. Perhaps I've caused those html errors you've eluded to? I appreciate that you have identified that there are html errors that need to be addressed but unsure why if they are core to why Rick ignores inquiries, why you've not provided any direction as where I might first look and how to best proceed.

As to, "You got a good response from Chris about Focus", I did indeed get a good and timely response from Chris about Focus (an entirely different topic) on another Forum (an entirely different forum) for which I have free access whereas I have had little to no responses from Rick on this forum for which I pay. In short, your point eludes me and requires elaboration.

As to, "Technology evolve every day (or so), and all "Dev" try to keep up with #1 and #2, that mean a lot of work adjusting #3.", I have two things to say.

  1. You'll have to be clearer as to how this statement relates to the problem at hand. Has some aspect of WordPress or Thesis changed in a manner that BYOB related technology is no longer relevant? Yes technology evolves every day but I've not known it to do so in this context without considerable build up so that those that those that depend on that technology either as users or developers of technology that integrates do not have time to adapt.
  2. If you are suggesting that something has indeed change changed in WordPress and/or Thesis and for some reason caught the normally WordPress agile Rick, flat-footed and BYOB related technology is for the short or long term no longer relevant why am I and others being left to guess why Rick no longer responds with the expertise we paid for? Just tell us what's going on for goodness sake.

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Hi Pierre,

If you know what is going on with Rick and BYOBwebsite.com can you please give us a heads up.  In my case I have two major websites that are on track to go live in two weeks.  They are built on Agility 3.2.2.  I also have tried to reach Rick a couple weeks ago because I noticed his absence on the WP 5.0 update.  I, like others apparently, have heard nothing so it leads me to believe he is no longer in the game at BYOBwebsite.com.  If that is the case, Agility 3 is unlikely to be updated again.  Sadly, if true, this will be a major hit to many of us in time and money.

Rick has been an incredible asset.  Paying a monthly subscription fee for his help has been a no brainer, but now if Rick has moved on I have to act immediately to make major changes in all my websites.

I don't want to run the risk of launching two major sites in a couple weeks on Thesis + Agility 3.2.2 and having an incompatibility issue with WP 5.0+ or Thesis 2.7+ and not be able to have an Agility update to correct it.  This means I have to move everything to another skin at the least.  Unfortunately we have developed "boxes" specifically to work with Agility and we know Agility well and how to style it.

Moving to another Skin or Theme all together will be costly in time and money, but it appears it will be necessary.

Obviously you know something as you said this in another forum post recently when another developer was asking about upgrading Agility I believe.  You said,

"I would wait a few weeks. Many things are going on."

You obviously have knowledge of what is going on.  All I am asking is to let me know if my fears are confirmed so I can begin reworking the two websites today so I can hit the go live date.  This is critical to me.  I have paid a subscription fee for years now and feel I deserve a heads up to mitigate the damage in terms of lost time and money going with Agility 3.+.  If someone else is picking up the ball that is capable of doings so, let me know that.

If you don't want to put all the information on the forum, send me an email please at:  Allen@resultsarekey.com

Thank you for your time.

Allen

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Please, if the only response is to be private, please include me. I've included various contact methods in prior efforts to acquire answers, but here they are again.

Email: john@johnwade.com or john@askthedogguy.com

Much appreciated.

John

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I should add that I can appreciate that it is very possible that you (Pierre Cote) are caught between a rock and a hard place as well and that rather than be unwilling to share details regarding, "many things going on", you may have been mislead regarding "many things going on" and are wondering what's going on yourself. If that's the case, I'm not sure what the pay is to be a BYOB moderator but it seems unlikely that it's enough. 🙂 

For what it's worth, I'm not angry. Just frustrated. A little worried that perhaps something is wrong with Rick which of course is not any of my business, but I'd hate to think that if that is the case no one is reaching out to make sure some assistance couldn't be offered. At this point, I honestly can't think of any other reason as nothing in the history of my membership since 2013 remotely indicates anything other than a high level of dedication to the membership.

Whereas, Allen is looking for a shoring up of faith, I'm afraid that inspite of considerable effort to determine the best course forward for my business sites with BYOB as a valued resource, due to there being nothing to go on other than vage assurances, I've lost faith and gone into damage control and investment recovery mode.

If you know that Rick is at least physically and mentally all right, let us at least know, privately or publicly. This is so out of character for him.

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Hi all

I wish I could be more helpful but I'm in the dark as much as anyone.

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In searching for clues as to why Rick is no longer responding to questions or posting anything new in this forum or on his website (BYOBwebsite.com) I did a search for Rick Anderson.  It appears that Rick has taken a position at another software company named Waterfield Technologies.  If you go to his LinkedIn page (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tailoringtheweb)  you can see that he appears to have started about 5 months ago.  It appears that this new opportunity is taking up his time.

The last posts or responses from Rick that I have been able to see in the forum were from Nov. 10th.  I was worried that something happened to him (health, etc.).  That does not appear to be the case, which is good for him.  The question now for all of those using his Agility Skin, or any other of his skins or boxes, is what do we do now.

I can't help but wonder if Chris at DIYThemes.com (developer of Thesis) knew something of Rick's moving on.  Chris has become more active recently with updates and communication with the community.  Rick has the best training by far in the Thesis community and with Rick gone Thesis will loose a huge resource.

Sad to see.  Hope someone picks up the ball quickly or myself, as well as many others, will need to find another Thesis skin or Wordpress platform altogether.  I should have known that a one man show is not wise to rely on.  My bad.

Just my thoughts.

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I was aware that he had taken that employment on. However, that doesn't necessarily mean he is well or is actually still working there. I suppose that he might have got the position and something happened and as a result isn't in a position to update LinkedIn any more than BYOB.

I wanted to provide both motivation and opportunity to respond and having accomplished that, thought it best to request that his local police department do a welfare check. I have two different addresses for him. Waiting to see the results on the first. I told the police that it was out of character for him to not respond based on the 5+ years I have been a member and that I have emailed, posted and left a phone message, as have others. I also told them that I'm not interested in interfering with his personal life but would appreciate if they could get back to me (us) and let me (us) know that he's alive and well.

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